Classical Guitar Plans-Ramirez

January 31st, 2010

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  1. fabio Says:

    Hi,
    I’d like buy your plans but I’d like ask you is in them are shown the dimension of the thickness concerning the sides, the back and moreover for the top.
    tnx in advance,
    fabio

  2. David Says:

    Hi Fabio,

    Thanks for the question. The actual thickness of the top, sides and back is function of the wood strength that you are using. For backs and sides you can start out at about 3/32″ or 2.2 mm to 2.4 mm. This would work for any of the Rosewoods, Cyprus, Walnut, Maple, or other very hard, straight-grained wood. If the wood has a lot of figure you may want to go slightly thicker say to 2.4 to 2.5 mm.

    As for the soundboard wood, the variation is even greater. I would say that the range would be from 2.0 mm to 3.0 mm Sitka Spruce could be on the thinner side and the cedars would be on the thicker side. I make classical guitar with Canadian Red Cedar and I make them about 2.6 mm because the cedar is tight grained and very stiff. If using Sitka Spruce I would use a thickness of about 2.2 mm for a tight-grained, vertical grain top.

    See the article on tap tuning for more information on top selection and analysis see the article:
    http://ultimate-guitar-building.com/guitar-top-analysis/

  3. fabio Says:

    thanks to you for the replay, but, my question wasn’t related to a suggestion (in any case it was very welcome!). My question was posted to know if in your plans there are the real thickness related to the original histruments (torres or ramirez etc etc)

  4. Koichiro Says:

    Your plans look very interesting. I like that they are in digital format. Do you have the plans for classical guitars available in 650 scale?

    Regards,
    Koichiro

  5. David Says:

    Hi Koichiro,

    No, I’m sorry the plans are all based on 660mm scale. If there is a demand for the 650 scale, I will produce them. So far you are the only request for that scale.
    David

  6. Roy Says:

    I would have purchased 650mm scale if it was available. I just assumed it was not, I’ll build to 650.

    Another thing that I think would have been nice to see on the plans is information about thicknesses (back, sides, top). I purchased plans because I thought they would provide the information needed to build that instrument, it does not.

    I’ll keep that in mind when planing my next build.

  7. David Says:

    Hi Roy,

    Thicknesses are not supplied because the species and grain of the wood can govern the ultimate thickness of tops and sides. A good starting point for classical guitars is 3/32″ (2.3mm) for sitka tops and rosewood or other straight-grained backs and sides. If you use cedar the tops will likely need to be slightly thicker. Steel string guitar can be around 1/8″ or slightly less. Also, you can choose to thin the plates a bit and raise the height of the bracing to compensate for the plate thickness. When doing this though you will find that the bracing can “telegraph” through and you can see brace locations. With their extremely thin plates, you will often see this with flamenco guitars, which are usually built with 1/16″ thick plates.
    David

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